Can I run Gen 2 midlock cams in Gen 1 Coyote PCM?

For all other non specifically listed ECU tuning. This would include can-bus ecu's such as powerpc copperhead tricore and siemens ecus. As well as GM, Dodge or any aftermarket controller tuning etc...
Post Reply
Luis5.oh
Posts: 72
Joined: 2021 Mar 30, 12:27
Location: Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico
Vehicle Information: ---------------------------------------
*1995 Mustang GT - U4P0 - CBAZA
-95 Cobra manifold
-Siemens Deka 80's
-Explorer 4R70W (95 Mustang TCC Solenoid)
-Saleen racecraft lowering springs
-Moates quarterhorse
---------------------------------------
*2003 CTS base
-LS swap
---------------------------------------
*2008 Mustang GT
-Coyote Swap

Can I run Gen 2 midlock cams in Gen 1 Coyote PCM?

Unread post by Luis5.oh »

I thought it could be done if keeping complete gen 2 timing components but later I did read read that some ppl say I can be done with a tweak in the tune for the mid lock phasers and others say it is plain not possible.

There is an old Ford tech article released at the same time of the gen 2 engine that says:
The Gen 2 phasers , primary chain, and crank-sprocket are a matched set and cannot be interchanged with Gen 1 chain-drive. Also, VCT bolts are new for Gen 2 chain-drive due to bolt clearance to VCT solenoids. A calibration modification will be needed due to Gen 2 mid-lock phases
The thing is have a gen 1 F-150 refreshed (cleaned, crank bearings, rod bearings, rings and gaskets new) short block and a pair of used 2015-17 Mustang GT heads with cams with phasers. I do not have gen 1 camshafts and they are not available where I live, they are $1800ish which is a 100% turnoff for me rn.

Thanks in advance!
decipha
Posts: 6725
Joined: 2021 Feb 15, 12:23
Location: Metairie, LA
Vehicle Information: Work Truck
'25 F-150 5L

Re: Can I run Gen 2 midlock cams in Gen 1 Coyote PCM?

Unread post by decipha »

I dont understand why you wouldn't just swap the gen 2 ecu in ?
Luis5.oh
Posts: 72
Joined: 2021 Mar 30, 12:27
Location: Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico
Vehicle Information: ---------------------------------------
*1995 Mustang GT - U4P0 - CBAZA
-95 Cobra manifold
-Siemens Deka 80's
-Explorer 4R70W (95 Mustang TCC Solenoid)
-Saleen racecraft lowering springs
-Moates quarterhorse
---------------------------------------
*2003 CTS base
-LS swap
---------------------------------------
*2008 Mustang GT
-Coyote Swap

Re: Can I run Gen 2 midlock cams in Gen 1 Coyote PCM?

Unread post by Luis5.oh »

decipha wrote: 2026 Apr 21, 20:28 I dont understand why you wouldn't just swap the gen 2 ecu in ?
Because it's a S197, I want gauges and everything to work (cruise, gauges and whatever uses the same data lines), if that would work with 2015+ PCM I can try to wire it.
decipha
Posts: 6725
Joined: 2021 Feb 15, 12:23
Location: Metairie, LA
Vehicle Information: Work Truck
'25 F-150 5L

Re: Can I run Gen 2 midlock cams in Gen 1 Coyote PCM?

Unread post by decipha »

cant hurt to try it out, if it doesnt work then swap all the rest of the gen 2 stuff over as well
Post Reply