MOATES -- FYI

[J-man]

I haven't been able to find any schematics or really anything more than a mention of the Son-of-EECSucka hardware anywhere so far. The 74HC373 latch chip is tri-state capable but the design I'm using right now has its OE/ pin1 simply grounded. Thank you again for your input I'll do some more looking at this. This design not tri-stating the way it is now is probably why the pull-down resistors are so fiddly. I think the SUCKIT program has the LPT outputs (PD0-PD7) only jumping back and forth between 0 and 255. I don't think it's giving any address info to the EEC just strobing the data out of it into nibbles read by the status register of the LPT port and using the control port to change the bank select lines. My intentions are to move on to more modern tactics but for now I'm trying to learn by available examples and original thoughts from the beginning or near to it.

***Correction*** I realized after writing about the tri-stating up above it’s not the 74HC373 latch chip that needs to tri-state for the MBUS it the 74LS157 mux chip that is connected to the MBUS MB0-MB7. I’ll look to see what can be done with that.

I have a couple Rasbery pi Pico units I will start messing with eventually and they have some state machines built in with programmable I/O that may come in handy, plus they can clock to I think like 225Mhz.
***correction*** Dual ARM Cortex-M0+ @ 133MHz still impressive.

I'm having a lot of fun borderline obsessing over this lately.

Thank you
J.W.S.

[rusty_lawrence]

It would be cool to do a uv erase like this: https://youtu.be/_sSuzDg4ntA

That's how we did it in the early 90s.
I follow that youtuber, The software he uses looks like the programmer has configurable pins. That is what would be needed to program a stock Ford EEPROM. The programming/write pin that takes 12-15V is on the middle of the chip, pin 18 or something. Most EEPROMS its on the beginning or end of chip pins, like 0/1 or 23/24 or 27/28, something like that.

Anyways, UV erasing the EPROM should result in a read of all 0xFF's, chip bits all 1. When it is written it writes 0s.
It's all about testing and succeeding!

I stumbled across this recently. I'm sure some of you have seen it as it's flaoting around. has some info on eprom programming.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ypPYhu ... p=drivesdk

[71Mavrk]

Moats appears to have reopened:
https://www.moates.net/

Micah

[wwhite]

Moates post: viewtopic.php?p=16728#p16728

[decipha]

Absolutely nothing to be skeptical about its all 100% real and legit.

[wwhite]

Moates post: viewtopic.php?p=16728#p16728

[decipha]

The proof is me and im saying its not. Any proof you think you have is wrong.

I've literally watched orders come in and get sent out.

Apparently your unaware that Moates is local to me. I was just there the other day and I can confirm its all legit.

and btw thats not sketch thats privacy domain info, your only getting garbled info. And the capital region is 100% accurate lol.

[wwhite]

Why can I not create an account?
Why do they no respond to emails?
Why did they register the domain in Iceland?
I've got so many questions.

Moates post: viewtopic.php?p=16728#p16728

[decipha]

no idea x2
domain privacy
correct

they dont want to be flooded with requests right now they are doing a "soft" start

what email about shut down did you see

[wwhite]

Holiday Greetings!

As we move into the end of 2022, we sincerely want to say "THANK YOU ALL" for support and patronage. It's been a thrill helping folks with their efforts, and we've truly appreciated the opportunities to socialize, exchange ideas, learn, teach, and facilitate along the way.

We're closing down the webstore and related operations so that we can pursue the balance of our lives in different areas. There are several challenges that have led us to this decision, and we hope you can all appreciate the following:

The headwinds of production supply shortages have cut our supply lines to the marrow. Many components we've used have lead times of a year or more, with costs having increased significantly along the way. There's no end in sight, and we don't want to sacrifice quality with questionable sourcing or chase the costs by increasing prices.

We've been doing this for a while now, and we're tired and getting older. It's time for us to take a step back and focus on health, family, and overall wellness. Running Moates.net has taken a tremendous amount of time, which is a limited resource and in short supply. Between arthritis and chronic pain of hands, backs, and other various injuries of body parts, it is a challenge to physically perform tasks needed to keep things going and we need to change what we are doing to improve our quality of life.

We wish you the best on all your projects, whatever they may become. It's been an amazing experience, and again, we truly appreciate you all as we take this step!


Giving thanks,

Craig, Bonnie, and Dave

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