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Using Ford IDS and VCM to flash tune?
Posted: 2023 Oct 18, 22:47
by m-barans
Ok. We have Roush software and Ford software and they can both use the VCM pass through device to flash calibrations onto PCMs. File types look different between them. Whipple emails bin files and we have flashed them. Conceptually I believe I am missing something. Are all the tuning software companies just tweaking the strategy so all other's interfaces are confused? What is needed to take a RZASA custom bin made in Tunerpro art so that it can be flashed? Also, is it recommended to purchase the BE flash and QH package? Looks like both pieces of hardware are becoming or have already become obsolete.
My current objectives are to
1: flash a great base tune on the car in case my QH fails me.
2: be able to continue adjusting cal and dialing in with the QH
Re: Using Ford IDS and VCM to flash tune?
Posted: 2023 Oct 19, 07:29
by ATPCR
@m-barans. I may be mistaken, but from your vehicle information it sounds like you already have a Moates Quarterhorse and TunerPro RT?
~10 days ago, I contacted the Core Tuning people and asked if Moates QH and BE combo was still available. They said that they have a few left. I don't know if this means 3 or 4 or 96. I purchased the package and early this week the Moates device and BE arrived.
Re: Using Ford IDS and VCM to flash tune?
Posted: 2023 Oct 19, 11:06
by Cougar281
m-barans wrote: ↑2023 Oct 18, 22:47
Ok. We have Roush software and Ford software and they can both use the VCM pass through device to flash calibrations onto PCMs. File types look different between them. Whipple emails bin files and we have flashed them. Conceptually I believe I am missing something. Are all the tuning software companies just tweaking the strategy so all other's interfaces are confused? What is needed to take a RZASA custom bin made in Tunerpro art so that it can be flashed? Also, is it recommended to purchase the BE flash and QH package? Looks like both pieces of hardware are becoming or have already become obsolete.
My current objectives are to
1: flash a great base tune on the car in case my QH fails me.
2: be able to continue adjusting cal and dialing in with the QH
I don't think you could use Ford IDS to flash a TunerPro BIN. Your best bet there is PCMFlash, which should work with your VCM assuming it's J2534. I use my GM MDI2 with PCMFlash to do exactly what you describe with my Cougar (Yes, the GM MDI2 works with the Ford PCM - Chrysler too).
Re: Using Ford IDS and VCM to flash tune?
Posted: 2023 Oct 19, 22:54
by m-barans
Thank you for your response! I’m wondering if you have any recommendations on purchasing PCMflash or any details on how it works… I’m interested in finding a solution to my problem and learning more about how these things work.
Re: Using Ford IDS and VCM to flash tune?
Posted: 2023 Oct 19, 22:56
by m-barans
ATPCR wrote: ↑2023 Oct 19, 07:29
@m-barans. I may be mistaken, but from your vehicle information it sounds like you already have a Moates Quarterhorse and TunerPro RT?
~10 days ago, I contacted the Core Tuning people and asked if Moates QH and BE combo was still available. They said that they have a few left. I don't know if this means 3 or 4 or 96. I purchased the package and early this week the Moates device and BE arrived.
Thank you for the helpful info!
Re: Using Ford IDS and VCM to flash tune?
Posted: 2023 Oct 20, 09:19
by Cougar281
Re: Using Ford IDS and VCM to flash tune?
Posted: 2023 Nov 14, 22:50
by m-barans
What about the mongoose setup? Can I use that to flash the tune to the PCM? Can I use tunerpro bin file with that or do I need to use binary editor with it?