2005 F250 BIN file assistance

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2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by jcbryant »

Hey all. The vehicle I'm learning on is a 2005 Ford F250 6.0 Powerstroke. I don't know exactly how to explain what I'm needing, though I'll try
I want to learn how to read the BIN file from a PCM then take it to a program like Tuner Pro.
I have HPtuners and SCT advantage to tune with but I'd like to learn more about how everything really works.
If that makes sense. I'd like to eventually read the FICM on the 6.0 Powerstroke as well.
I've downloaded TunerPro, I bought PCMflash and I downloaded EEC-IV-disassembler. Now that I type that I realized that the PCM from the F250 is probably not EEC IV. So it probably wont work. That's why I'm asking questions.
So far I've read the BIN file from the truck which I'm attaching.
I've tried opening the disassembler but I'm not having any success. I'm expecting a program window to open but I have a feeling I'm wrong and don't know where to start.
Thanks
Chris
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Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

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you will need ida disassembler
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Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by wwhite »

decipha wrote: 25 Jul 2021, 14:46 you will need ida disassembler
or any disassembler, that already has the PPC processor and instruction set.

Ghidra is an alternative to IDA.

If using Ghidra, you'll probably need to tweak the language a little bit, add or modify instructions.
Seems to decompile somewhat using the MPC8270 or PowerQUICC-III variant.

Interesting, I've never seen "Copyright (C) Visteon Corporation 2000,2001,2002" before.

Either way, its a big undertaking, unless you have lots of time.
jcbryant
Posts: 31
Joined: 04 Jun 2021, 17:11
Location: Jefferson City, MO
Vehicle Information: 2015 5.0 from F150
2016 mustang pcm strategy FPGP6KS
2.9 whipple
132mm whipple throttle body
1050X injector dynamics
fore dual fuel pumps with return fuel lines
long tube headers
91 octane

2013 F150 3.5 ecoboost

2006 F350 6.0 Powerstroke

Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by jcbryant »

Sorry haven't responded for some time. Been busy.
I think this is most likely more then I need to take on. Like wwhite said its a big undertaking and it takes lots of time.
I'd like to learn but I don't even have an understanding of writing code.

thank you wwhite and decipha for responding.
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Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by decipha »

I just realized your a premium member.

If you still need something just LMK.
jcbryant
Posts: 31
Joined: 04 Jun 2021, 17:11
Location: Jefferson City, MO
Vehicle Information: 2015 5.0 from F150
2016 mustang pcm strategy FPGP6KS
2.9 whipple
132mm whipple throttle body
1050X injector dynamics
fore dual fuel pumps with return fuel lines
long tube headers
91 octane

2013 F150 3.5 ecoboost

2006 F350 6.0 Powerstroke

Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by jcbryant »

Id like to continue learning but at this time I'm swamped with repair work and a couple small tuning fixes.

I did download IDA and a x32dbg and X64dbg

Here is the link to the 64 and 32 debugger I downloaded to try https://x64dbg.com/#start

This is the IDA disassembler I downloaded https://hex-rays.com/ida-pro/
Is this correct?

I try to drag and drop my BIN file into the debugger and it will not bring it up. they usually come up with an error.

I guess I probably need to learn some coding.
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Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by decipha »

yeah coding is a must

I've heard there are some powerpc / motorola directives out there for ida.
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Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by wwhite »

Also, if your using IDA, you'll probably need to purchase it, as the 'Freeware' only supports x86/x64 code.
jcbryant
Posts: 31
Joined: 04 Jun 2021, 17:11
Location: Jefferson City, MO
Vehicle Information: 2015 5.0 from F150
2016 mustang pcm strategy FPGP6KS
2.9 whipple
132mm whipple throttle body
1050X injector dynamics
fore dual fuel pumps with return fuel lines
long tube headers
91 octane

2013 F150 3.5 ecoboost

2006 F350 6.0 Powerstroke

Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by jcbryant »

I went to IDA licensing list. How do I know which to pick?
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Re: 2005 F250 BIN file assistance

Unread post by decipha »

I would hold off on that first. Best bet is to take an eec-v binary and run it through the free disassembler and go through it and see if its even something your interested in before you go spending money on something you may never use.

Your a premium member so if you need something for the f250 just LMK no biggie.
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