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10R80

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I am building some 10R80 transmissions for some guys. Fairly heavy duty builds and cost a good bit to do just for parts. Is there a way that I can read the tunes in these cars and just change the transmission parameters that I feel need to be changed in the tunes and write them back? I want to stand behind my builds but I am honestly concerned about how the customers tuners are setting up transmission parameters. I have one customer in particular that is saying it doesn't drive well and I have not had an issue with anyone else since I have started doing these. Some tuners lock out the tunes so I am planning on using PCM Flash and a mongoose cable to read the current tune and tuner pro if I can figure out how to break out the parameters I would need to change...IE: shift points, pressures, etc. The valve body is modified pretty heavily and also the pump, Also, I do change the clearances in the transmission a good bit and so far most of my customers have gone to the same tuner and I know him very well, so he modifies the tunes accordingly and we have had great success. It is the outside tuners that I seem to be having customers complaining about how the transmission operates. If I have to charge a little more to be able to make up the cost of licensing I will but I would like to not have to retune the whole vehicle, Just enough for transmission changes and then maybe???? lock my changes out to the outside tuners unless I give them the password to change something. I do not know everyone and some people I have met over the years have very questionable tuning methods, and I do not want the customer to suffer for that. Or my transmissions and my reputation in building them. Thanks for any input you guys can provide.
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Re: 10R80

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Yeah no problem but there is no def files available so youll have to make them and that can be pretty tedious.

What are you using to tune them now? Sounds like hptuners from you mentioning licensing. Hptuners should never be used on a highly modified vehicle as the program layout makes it impossible to break out too many parameters that should be changed.
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Re: 10R80

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I usually send them to the local Mustang tuner. He is very experienced and I do not have issues with the cars he tunes. We worked together to fine tune the trans settings and got them driving and holding up very well. Some he uses HPTuners and some, another program (can not remember which). It is Just the outside tuners so far. I do not have a facility to fully tune a vehicle, but would really like to be able to at least adjust the transmission settings and take a look at the MAF function on the cars that have outside tuners. I have a Mongoose cable and am planning to purchase pcmflash, just have to decide which modules I actually need, and pull the trigger on the purchase. Was hoping there would be a sale coming up soon on it. Do you know or any DMR files, or anything like that, for those model year vehicles and a disassembler I could use to get started? Or is there a software I could use on them that I wouldn't have to license them every time? I don't mind buying a license for a vehicle type or something like that, just hate to have to license the vehicle if it is already tuned by someone else.
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Re: 10R80

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The other thing I meant to ask, Which software do you prefer to use to make def files for the newer stuff? WINOLS? Or is there a better less expensive option? Thanks again!!
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