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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:35 pm

ive never used those 120# injectors, you are aware they cannot be used on a ford ecu without an injector driver correct?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby Pappacosworth » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:37 am

Ford GT500 5.8 Trinity injector data, 54 lb nominal value
Low slope 73,99080 lb/h
High slope 56,86920
Breakpoint 0,0000140
minimum pw 0,00045600
offset vs voltage:
6 0,00771498819813132
7 0,00532307894900441
8 0,00293116993270814
9 0,00238036597147584
10 0,00182956305798143
11 0,00154988095164299
12 0,00133582705166191
13 0,0011716129956767
13.5 0,00110780901741236
14 0,00104400503914803
14.5 0,000987946055829525
15 0,000931886024773121

Ford GT500 5.4 injector values 47 lb nominal value

Low slope 64.54513 lb/h
High slope 48.27437
Breakpoint 0,0000140
minimum pw 0.00044800
offset vs voltage:
0.00479200016707182
0.00350999995134771
0.00222899997606874
0.00186700001358986
0.00150599994231015
0.00129000004380941
0.00112499995157123
0.000985000049695373
0.000929999980144203
0.000875999976415187
0.000829000025987625
0.000782000017352402
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:50 am

should be good to go
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby 289Hilux » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:47 pm

Looking for the correct data for the Bosch 0 280 155 968 "Green Giants"
The data seem hard to locate. I thought they were a very commonly used in the Ford 5.0L

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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:02 pm

on the homepage
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby 289Hilux » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:05 am

Unless I am looking for the wrong thing I cant see a listing for the Bosch 42Lb
Unless I use the FRPP 42Lb data?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:08 am

thats them
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby 289Hilux » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:40 pm

Cool thanks. I will let know how I get on.
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby motorhead1991 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:36 am

I'm running Bosch 0-280-155-831 on my 2.3L, would you like the information I'm using on them? They're a Volvo injector but are high-Z
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby notched » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:51 pm

Looking for injector data for Holley 50lb High impedance injectors. I contacted Holley but they would not provide me with any information on a discontinued item. Thanks Brad
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:22 am

hey motorhead do you have actual published data or some that you made yourself? I have my own data for them as well.

either way what values do you have ?

notched... no i do not have any data for those injectors
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby motorhead1991 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:52 am

decipha wrote:hey motorhead do you have actual published data or some that you made yourself? I have my own data for them as well.

either way what values do you have ?

notched... no i do not have any data for those injectors


It's a mix of my experience, a friends and published data. I had to move the slopes a touch on my 2.3 compared to my friends 302 though.

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Alosl: 39.15
Ahisl: 31.5

offset vs volts:
15.94    0.69
14.00    0.81
12.00    0.81
11.00    1.09
10.00    1.34
9.00     2.03
7.00     3.09
6.00     3.50
5.50     3.78
0.00     4.09
0.00     4.09
0.00     4.09

Breakpoint:
16.000   0.0000132397
0.000   0.0000132397
0.000   0.0000132397
0.000   0.0000132397
0.000   0.0000132397
0.000   0.0000132397
0.000   0.0000132397
0.000   0.0000132397
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:31 am

thats quite a bit higher than i would have expected

This is what I came up with at 55psi base fuel pressure

ahisl and alosl the same at 33.7

15.94 0.38
15.00 0.38
14.00 0.41
13.00 0.50
12.00 0.59
11.00 0.88
10.00 1.09
8.00 1.72
6.00 3.31
0.00 3.31
0.00 3.31
0.00 3.31
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby motorhead1991 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:08 am

Watching KAMS, the thing seems happy so I just left it. :grin:
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby Sdinse » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:37 pm

Has anyone come across any data for the Bosch 0 280 158 193 EV14 injectors as used in the Ford 5.4L Triton engines? So far, what I have been able to find is this:

Flow rates @ 43.5 psi / 3 bar
30.7 lb per hour
231.9 G per min. (N-Heptane)
322.5 cc per min

12 Ohm resistance

Courtesy of Injector Planet

Can anyone verify these specs? I believe the reference to their use in the Coyote engine is wrong, as has been pointed out in other places on the web. One person has put out flow test results showing the flow at 325 cc\min, which is close to the specs above.

What I'd really like to know is the dead time and voltage compensation for these.

Anyone?? :?:
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby Sdinse » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:46 pm

Bump

ANYONE??
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:24 am

that is correct those are indeed 30lb injectors

Here is the stock injector data for a 2010 f150 5.4L 3v @ 64psi base fuel pressure - rxge6 strategy dvc0 catch code

Note this is at 64psi of base fuel pressure

39.24 lbs/hr - high slope
44.64 lbs/hr - low slope
0.0000119 breakpoint

voltage offset msec
15.89 0.719
15.00 0.742
14.00 0.852
13.50 0.921
13.00 0.985
12.00 1.139
11.00 1.341
10.00 1.608
9.00 1.950
8.00 2.601
7.00 3.873
6.00 7.633

you can approximate the flow data by multiplying all the above values by 0.785 to estimate for 40psi of base fuel pressure if you had to
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby Sdinse » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:03 pm

Thank you so much for the data. This will help considerably. I am using these on a Jag V12 running them at 43.5 psi in a flex fuel set up. I guess now I just need to do a bit of math to fine tune my settings. I had no idea that they were run at such a high pressure in their stock setting, especially since I believe most of the applications for these injectors (E series vans, etc.) are normally aspirated.
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby Sdinse » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:11 pm

Oh, one more thing, what does "rxge6 strategy dvc0 catch code" mean in laymans terms?

Thanks again
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:25 pm

the strategy is the operating system on the ecu which usually varies by make model and often year

the catch code is the calibration tune file for that strategy
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby Sdinse » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:31 pm

Ahah! Well, I'm not sure that would mean much to me since I'm using MegaSquirt to run my injection and ignition, though I'd be curious to know more about the calibration tune file. Maybe there is something useful in that. I just don't know what I don't know, but I always like to learn as much as I can.

Confirmation of the flow data and seeing something definitive on the voltage offset is really helpful. Most appreciated.
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby lowranger96 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:50 am

https://treperformance.com/i-20608663-t ... ors-4.html

Anyone ever used these or have the data for them?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:10 am

tre has been verified to sell knock off injectors I wouldn't chance buying any from them
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Unread postby lowranger96 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:49 am

That’s the same thing I told them customer when I found out that’s what he is running. Lol
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby lowranger96 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:57 am

How about fuel injector development FID750? Likely similar to Injector dynamic stuff?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:02 am

if they are who i think they are then i thought they publish their data have u contacted them?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby skythunder83 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:55 am

So this thing has confused me a lot. I gut this set of Injectors with this number 0280158117 with Ford logo, black with orange ring and 6 spray holes, been told it's from GT500. Can't be sure is it 2007-2012 GT500 or 2013-2014, is it 47, 50, 52,54 or 55 lb and it data should be at 39.15 PSI or 55 PSI.
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby ironmanisanemic » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:14 am

skythunder83 wrote:So this thing has confused me a lot. I gut this set of Injectors with this number 0280158117 with Ford logo, black with orange ring and 6 spray holes, been told it's from GT500. Can't be sure is it 2007-2012 GT500 or 2013-2014, is it 47, 50, 52,54 or 55 lb and it data should be at 39.15 PSI or 55 PSI.
This type of injectors are everywhere with different data. Attached pictures


To me they look like the Ford racing g302 injectors. They publish their data on the Ford racing website.
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby skythunder83 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:32 am

But this with orange ring not yellow! And if so, why there is two pressure drop ref? 39.15 and 55? And which should I use?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:49 am

use the data for the fuel pressure your running. If you use the 55psi data then you have to set you base fuel pressure to 55psi.
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby skythunder83 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:17 pm

Okay clear, so 47 data or 52?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby ironmanisanemic » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:03 pm

I would start with the g302 data. None of the other ford racing injectors that I saw had a colored band. Also a few eBay listing also showed orange rings for that series of injectors.
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby skythunder83 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:18 pm

Sounds good, thx
Another question might sound stupid. How about flow rate high/low multi vs press, breakpoints multi, PW minimum and offset multi vs press?
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby ironmanisanemic » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:50 pm

skythunder83 wrote:Sounds good, thx
Another question might sound stupid. How about flow rate high/low multi vs press, breakpoints multi, PW minimum and offset multi vs press?

all of that is listed in the specifications listed on the ford racing website for the listed injectors...

https://performanceparts.ford.com/parts/ics/m-9593-g302.pdf
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby skythunder83 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:53 pm

Stupid me, I have this list already but my mind was stuck here, thx bro
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby sspeedta » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:18 pm

I'm looking for data on some 280155715 injectors at 43.5 PSI
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Re: Injector Data

Unread postby decipha » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:23 pm

thats supposed to be the marauder injectors. Info is in the list.
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