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What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:38 am

I am starting to realize that I really need to data log to be able to tune, which you already know, but for me this is all new. It is hard to dial in with out it. With that said, I bought the base Tweecer, only to realize, you can't data log. Now I am stuck with a decision - get a different tuner or pay $200 to upgrade. I am not really happy with Caledit, and the support is hit or miss with Tweecer. Tuner Pro doesn't have my strategy for download, so I would have to pay to get that made up (unless someone knows more about getting a VEX1 for it)

I already have a lot of tied up in my truck putting everything together, so I really don't want to spend a lot of money on tuners and tuning, etc. Once I get everything dialed in, I probably won't mess with it much after. I am just looking for ideas on what to do for cost efficiency as well as usability. I supposed I could sell my base Tweecer for a few bucks to help recoup something, but on one probably wants the base unit.
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:32 pm

you cant dial it in without logging, you can force open loop and attempt to make corrections hoping nothing is off and go from there, thats about the only option when you don't have datalogging abilities, sct diablo etc... have been doing that for years, shooting in the dark and hoping for the best, it can be done but not ideal

for $250 you can buy a brand new quarterhorse direct from moates, that would be the best option

you can have all the money in the world tied up in the truck, if its not running correctly all that money is useless, the tune aspect is the most critical

what all issues are you having that you need tuned out? yea it would be very difficult to sell a base tweecer these days
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:52 pm

The bucking issue was the first issue. I really wanted to log to see obvious problems that I could fix myself. But I wanted to have you do a custom tune at some point, but you can't even do that with out logging. If I go with QH, don't I still have to buy BE or have someone make a file to use with Tuner Pro?
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:39 pm

im the only one that I know of that actively makes and posts tunerpro defs, its up to you, BE is a few bucks more but tunerpro gives you full access
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:43 pm

I don't understand 'its u to you' ..? sorry, mispelling? I take it Tuner Pro logs too, right? Would it write and log from a Tweecer? Or should I just get a QH and be done with it?
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:42 pm

oopa meant its up to you, i edited the post to fix the mispelling

yep tunerpro logs awesome

no, i do not know of any publicly posted tweecer plugins for tunerpro

QH is far superior
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:05 pm

Ok.. sounds like my best bet. So, can my current Tweecer tune be converted to work with the QH? What kind of cost is involved in created the def file that I would need from you? Thanks for all the advice. Really appreciated!
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:13 pm

yep u can use the same tune

its $600 to create a def file for non premium members, $150 for premium members, but you dont need a full def file just some dashpot settings spark table and isc multiplier, along with datalogging, thats really nothing at all and i can prob knock that out in a couple hours so its no biggie considering you plan on becoming a premium member on the other vehicle
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:59 am

Sounds great! I'll get back to you within a few weeks (maybe 2 or so), and we can talk more about it. The truck runs good enough for now, so I can still drive it just fine. I'd def want the trans stuff in the def file as well, as I like messing with the trans, but we can talk more later. Thanks again and I will getting back you soon.
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:54 pm

Alright, I'm ready to start on the serious tuning. The gas mileage has been killing me. I would like to paypal you the $150 to write the def file for me. I want to make sure it has ALL the trans tuning options, as the one I'm working with only has really basic options. Let me know. I'm planning on getting a QH shortly, and then I will have you do the actual tune for me.
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:23 am

yea thats cool no prob
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:21 am

Money sent. Thanks!
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:04 pm

Decipha,

Did you ever get a chance to make that def file?
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:08 pm

I started on the disassembly end of it, quite a ways before its complete, check back with me this time next week and i should have something together with minimal parameters for dashpot and trans tuning
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:57 am

Ok. Cool. I have been anxious to get it to get my trans tuned. I realized it wont unlock past 50mph, regardless of whether I tap the brake pedal or floor it. I have it to unlock 5mph higher than lockup, so something is off. Caledit has nothing in it for it, so Im excited to try Tunerpro. When you get closer, is there a way for you to convert the caledit file to a bin file? Thanks so much
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:18 am

yea no problem, can do it now and prob give u the shift scheduling the end of this week

post your current tune, and fill out the vehicle info sheet from the homepage and attach it here, be sure to keep your private info off of it, home address # etc...

at the bottom of the info sheet where it says comments, list everything you want to improve in your current tune and all the problems your having

ill look it over make sure nothings a miss and post back your current tune and a half ass def file
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:57 pm

Sent over the vehicle info sheet through your site. Here is the file I am currently using. Sorry I didn't get back sooner. I was out of town for a few days. I listed all my issues on the info sheet I sent over.
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:18 pm

Yea I got it seen it pop up on my tele
I'll shoot it back once I review it all
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:57 pm

Something else I noticed recently... The tune I sent you I had just loaded into my truck. I had changed the 4th gear TC lockup points to a lower MPH so it would lock up at a more appropriate time. Last night was the first time I really got to test it out. So I can only get my TC to lock if I let off the gas for a split second. I can hold it where it should lock, but it won't. For example, I can be going 55 and the pedal is down just far enough to keep it gping. I can give it a little more or a little less, and no lockup. It should have locked up by this point, but it won't. Its like the original file I got from tweecer is just messed up from the getgo regarding the trans tune. Any thoughts?
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:51 pm

Any updates on the def file and tune?
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:07 am

sounds like your converter has a higher slip ratio that the tune is set to lock up at, no biggie

no not at this moment, still gotta work out the datalogging for it and i'll post it up
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:38 pm

I guess that can be changed in the tune? I know there are no available options for it in the tweecer I have. How do I find out what the slip ratio is? Trial and error? All I know is that it is a "Precision HD convertor" according to the receipt from the trans shop.
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:39 am

yes it can be, simply reducing the slip ratio that permits lock up with allow it to lock up sooner while its slipping more as compared to a stock converter

I should be able to post up a tune for you tonight so long as nothing pops up
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby studleyjay126 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:18 pm

Any news?
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Re: What to do - tuner issue on VEX1 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:37 pm

shit, no hadn't a chance, I highly doubt i'll get any free time before the week end either, if I get a chance tonight i'll shoot it off but I highly doubt it
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