Crank trigger angle

Used only on the 03/04 Marauder but can be used on any 03/04 ecu with code changes. Uses newer style SCP array so will not control cluster correctly on 2004 and older fords that use the older style SCP array such as mustangs.
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Re: Crank trigger angle

Unread post by dleach1407 »

I don't know how well that will work out for you. I have that same pickup or at least one that looks the same. Is your magnetic? If not I don't think it will work. The one I have depends on magnets in the trigger wheel and it's designed to trigger an msd ignition box like a 6al
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Re: Crank trigger angle

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a flying magnet sensor is a 3 wire hall effect dc voltage thats not going to work

you want the 2 wire VR sensor which is ac, far superior
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Re: Crank trigger angle

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I'm using a stock sensor. I really don't want to use something aftermarket but with that said, I haven't found a 2 wire aftermarket sensor even when I was looking. The one I was talking about is 2 wire but it's not magnetic like all the other vr sensors I've seen.
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Re: Crank trigger angle

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vr is variable reluctance not magnetic
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Re: Crank trigger angle

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decipha wrote: 2023 May 05, 02:47 vr is variable reluctance not magnetic
My stock vr sensors have a magnet in them. Both the crank and cam sensors stick to steel. I've never seen a vr sensor that doesn't have a magnet in it.
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Re: Crank trigger angle

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decipha wrote: 2023 May 05, 02:47 vr is variable reluctance not magnetic
Should be Hall Effect, rather than "not magnetic".
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Re: Crank trigger angle

Unread post by dleach1407 »

I still don't understand vr not being magnetic. The entire principal of vr is a ferrous metal passing in front of a magnet generating an ac sine wave every time the metal passes in front of the magnet pole (simplified version) . How is that not magnetic?
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Re: Crank trigger angle

Unread post by decipha »

The primary word there is flying.

The flying magnet ignition is an aftermarket setup which is what it sounded like you were getting at earlier is not going to work with the stock ecu.
That has magnets flying on the crank.

The vr sensor is supposed to be magnetic but its stationary its not a flying magnet setup.
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Re: Crank trigger angle

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Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: Crank trigger angle

Unread post by dleach1407 »

Can I also get some clarification on the cam sensor? It appears the ecu pinout has a cam+ but no cam-. Do I just use the signal return for the cam sensor? Looking at the stock harness I believe that's how it's wired but I want to make sure that's the proper way to wire it.
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