351w 36-1 alignment

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351w 36-1 alignment

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I have the 28oz balancer that requires the explorer wheel to be pressed on.
I am using an aftermarket timing cover that has the VR sensor fixed mount.
Question is, if I press on the wheel and am out by one degree, will that mater, does it have to be perfect, and can it be adjusted after in the tune?
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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yep it matters

no it cant
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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Can't you adjust the sensor by one degree? Is the sensor on sliding bracket?
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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AcesArneson wrote: 2024 Feb 29, 19:19 Can't you adjust the sensor by one degree? Is the sensor on sliding bracket?
No, it’s fixed, see pic, ignore red arrow:
IMG_1291.jpeg
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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Sorry wwhite, I have no idea. Mine is on the outside.
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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So, with the VR sensor mounted, fixed, crank at TDC, the wheel need to be mounted on balancer at where the VR is directly over the whole tooth, 5 teeth before the missing tooth? Is that correct.

Of course timing pointer would also be at 0 degrees on balancer.

First time doing this setup, hope my question makes sense.
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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wwhite's picture looks like the Explorer timing chain & gears cover.
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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ATPCR wrote: 2024 Mar 03, 12:14 wwhite's picture looks like the Explorer timing chain & gears cover.
Correct, I have a brand new one.
Using a 28oz balancer that had the 4 point star(misfire ring), and 36-1 wheel from an explorer 50oz balancer.

I’ve pressed off both rings, ready to press on 36-1 wheel onto 28oz balancer, just needs to be perfectly aligned as there will be no adjustment after wards.
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Re: 351w 36-1 alignment

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If I were at work, I would get you a picture of what my Explorer,Mountaineer balancerdamper,36-1 ring looks like like at TDC. I wont be back there until Monday morning ~ 9:30 central time USA. Do you have the slick water pump pulley that I think is unique to the 96-01 Explorer front engine dress?
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