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by Nanserbe
2022 May 19, 12:21
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

Unplugged the #1 inj for fun, results:
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by Nanserbe
2022 May 19, 12:15
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

decipha wrote: 2022 May 18, 12:48 u did verify its communicating and the fuel pump primed and shut off

sounds like u didnt clean the j3 port
Yeah pump shuts off after 3s of priming, how do I verify it's communicating well with the ECU?

I'm kind of wondering if I have a bad HEGO, or stuck injector or something on Bank 1, as that was where the #1 cylinder filled up with fuel.

Bank 1's HEGO volts are a LOT lower than bank 2.
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by Nanserbe
2022 May 18, 12:07
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

decipha wrote: 2022 May 18, 11:23 did you adjust the cranking pw?
I have 60's so I multiplied the right column by 0.31666666666666666666666666666667 (19 / 60)

I'm going to try the redone tune and see what happens.
by Nanserbe
2022 May 18, 11:40
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

decipha wrote: 2022 May 18, 11:23 did you adjust the cranking pw?
Yes. I might redownload the A9L2 and start back over to make sure.

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05/16/2022 16:12:19  Scalar:    SP** (WARNING) AHISL -  Injector High Slope **SEE COMMENTS** changed from 19.641 lbs/hr (0x13A4) to 60.270 lbs/hr (0x3C45).
05/16/2022 16:13:35  Scalar:    SP** ALOSL - Injector Low Slope [lbs/hr] changed from 80.087 lb/hr (0x5AB6) to 63.191 lb/hr (0x4793).
05/17/2022 08:28:01  Patch:     INJECTORS - 60LB @ 40PSI - LU60 Siemens Deka 60s changed.
05/17/2022 08:35:57  Function:  Crank PW ECT Modifier - FN348 changed.
05/17/2022 08:43:38  Scalar:    SP**_SARCHG - Engine Size Displacement changed from 926.66 Cubic In. (0x29CF) to 301.99 Cubic In. (0x0DA0).
05/17/2022 16:36:36  Function:  SP** MAF Transfer - AM - FN036 (approximate) changed.
05/17/2022 22:28:59  Function:  SP** MAF Transfer (volts) - kg/hr - FN036 changed.
05/17/2022 22:42:14  Patch:     KAM Clear At Key On - Z_KAMCLR (Adapt Disable / FADPT_SW) (Disables Idle Spark Corr ?) changed.
05/17/2022 22:59:45  Function:  Injector Offset Lag Time - FN367 (Crank PW Modifier) changed.
05/18/2022 07:32:32  Function:  SP** MAF Transfer - AM - FN036 (approximate) changed.
by Nanserbe
2022 May 18, 09:57
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

decipha wrote: 2022 May 18, 06:57 No, u havw to put the injector data in first then the maf

read the comments on the injector high slope

they are all the same just displayed to you differently

i wouldnt recommend using the maf he poated as it doesnt go to max and min volts and the points are outside of the histogram so youd have to manually dial it in
I put the injector data in (using your Siemens 60 patch), then the 24lb calibrated MAF, SARCHG,

It wont run though, at least not well. There's raw fuel coming out of the exhaust and it ended up filling up the #1 cylinder with fuel to where I had to take the spark plug out and turn it over.
by Nanserbe
2022 May 18, 01:27
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

ironmanisanemic wrote: 2022 May 17, 23:56 Give this a shot

I will thanks!

I see that some MAF curves have kg/min, lb/min, etc. Does it matter what one I put it into, as long as the unit matches? How does tunerpro know what one to use?
by Nanserbe
2022 May 17, 23:34
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

decipha wrote: 2022 May 17, 20:57 no, the maf has nothing to do with the injectors.

You simply copy and paste the actual maf curve in your tune from the homepage

fox 24lb curve since ita cald for 24s
And then the 60lbs siemens patch since I'm running the black Siemens 60's?

I recall (a LONG time ago) you said that you use high/low to get close, and then the MAF to fine tune the rest?
by Nanserbe
2022 May 17, 19:19
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

dleach1407 wrote: 2022 May 17, 18:42 That is not a slot maf, thats an old school "tonsil" style maf. You should be able to use a stock maf curve and just multiply the whole curve by .90, maybe .85 to get it close since its calibrated for 24s. Youre going to have to dial it in regardless.
Since I have Siemen's 60lb injectors, I'll need to multiply the curve by 2.5, right? (60 / 24)
by Nanserbe
2022 May 17, 17:52
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

dleach1407 wrote: 2022 May 17, 16:57 https://www.pmas-maf.com/transfer-function/

If it's a newer style sensor it should be clearly labeled which sensor it is. If it's an early one its harder to identify. The outage listed above should help you identify which you have. Both of mine are 10 years old and still going strong. They are the first generation sensor.
It's a little older, I don't see it on the website. I'm not sure if this photo will show up or not.

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by Nanserbe
2022 May 17, 16:47
Forum: GUFX - 89-93 Foxbody ECUs
Topic: Not enough MAF Points?
Replies: 22
Views: 4487

Re: Not enough MAF Points?

decipha wrote: 2022 May 17, 15:06 Yeah 7 or 9 points is typical to test a maf sensor its only to show that the sensor works and reads air flow it is not a maf curve.

In order to get an actual maf curve you have to send in your intake manifold complete with the throttle body, inlet piping, air filter assembly and all - 100% identical to how it is in the vehicle.

PMAS makes about 25 different slot sensors that look identical so you'll need to manually dial it in as it could be any of them.

Its easy enough just let tunerpro correct it for you using the histograms
Can/should I start with the included 7 or 9 points?
Or start with one of the MAF transfer curves from here?: http://efidynotuning.com/maf.htm